episode #05

Robin Sharma – On The Framework for a Better Life



Leadership expert, world-renowned speaker and best-selling author, Robin Sharma joins the podcast to share the frameworks and influences that have shaped his core beliefs and development. Dr. Stephanie and Robin talk about the importance of having distinct and purposeful morning routines, as highlighted in Robin’s latest book, The 5 AM Club. They discuss the concept of the four interior empires, which include the mindset, heartset, healthset and soulset. These four pillars are at the center of uncovering our light, luminosity, strength, and wisdom. Finally, Robin expounds on more frameworks and theories from his books and provides suggestions on how parents can influence their children for the better.


  • 01:02 – Introducing today’s guest, Robin Sharma
  • 04:45 – Robin recalls the greatest influences on his life’s journey
  • 08:26 – The importance of having a morning routine
  • 12:11 – The Four Interior Empires
  • 16:32 – The framework of your heartset
  • 20:29 – Why kindness is a super power
  • 27:41 – Pursuing joy
  • 32:14 – The Genius Betrayal Syndrome
  • 36:10 – The importance of building a great team
  • 37:49 – Robin explains why cheap costs more
  • 40:29 – The Twin Cycles of Elite Performance explained
  • 43:32 – The best way for parents to influence their children
  • 47:01 – Robin leaves the audience with a few challenges
  • 47:57 – Robin makes a couple of announcements about his book
  • 49:15 – Where listeners can follow Dr. Stephanie and subscribe to her newsletter



“One of my core things that I believe is no one will believe in you until you believe in you.” (07:03)

“Building soulset at five am while the rest of the world is asleep is about letting go of the noisy voice of ego, which is the voice of your insecurity and wounded self, and rebuilding the relationship with who you truly are – this light, this luminosity, this strength, this undefeatability, this wisdom.” (15:22)

“Your life, your income, your impact will never be any higher than your pain.” (16:55)

“The Spartan warriors used to say, ‘Sweat more in training and you’ll bleed less in war.’” (26:45)

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable one persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” (28:33)

“A great life is nothing more than a series of well-lived days strung together.” (38:20)

“If you work longer, harder, more stressed, you are literally going to deplete, what I call in the 5 AM Club book, the five assets of genius: your mental focus, your physical energy, your personal talent, your daily willpower, and your time.” (41:08)


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The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari: A Fable About Fulfilling Your Dreams & Reaching Your Destiny

The Leader Who Had No Title: A Modern Fable on Real Success in Business and in Life

The 5 AM Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life.


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  • Robin Sharma
  • Dr. Stephanie Estima

I’m Dr. Stephanie

Part geek, part magic, and all the way passionate about being a well-lived woman.

I want to throw my grandkids in the air in my 70’s. I want to be squatting even more weight than I am now, and putting my OWN luggage in the overhead bin. Sound like weird goals? For me these are just some of the little things that represent a life well-lived.

My health is MY job – I’ll be damned if I rely on luck, ‘good genes’ or a cocktail of drugs that over promise and under deliver.

The Betty Body is my first book-baby, and a collection of what I’ve learned after thousands of clinical hours, hundreds of conversations with the world’s top experts, and most importantly…

This book is an outline of what took ME from “rock-bottom health” at 38, to being my own version of a Betty in my perimenopausal mid 40’s. A woman who is physically strong, full of energy, enjoys mental clarity, great sex and a joyful family life. Is it all roses? Of course not. But I have the stamina and tools to deal with the push and pull of life so that it doesn’t turn into chronic stress.

I want this for you too. Let’s go Bettys!