episode #03

Lisa Nichols – On Goals, Forgiveness, and the Permission to Fail


Episode 003 Lisa Nichols – On Goals, Forgiveness, and the Permission to Fail

Transformational speaker, entrepreneur, and best-selling author, Lisa Nichols is on today’s podcast with Dr. Stephanie! From a struggling single mom on public assistance to a millionaire entrepreneur, Lisa’s courage and determination has inspired fans worldwide and helped countless audiences break through, to discover their own untapped talents and infinite potential. Dr. Stephanie and Lisa talk about goal setting, the process of forgiveness, overcoming fear, and the importance of community. They discuss the concept of cellular learning and the importance of never outliving your dreams. Finally, Lisa opens up with tremendous vulnerability about a story from her past.



  • 00:58 – Introducing today’s guest, Lisa Nichols
  • 03:59 – Lisa’s origin story
  • 06:28 – Willing to have an unfamiliar life
  • 07:32 – The courage to ask for help
  • 11:24 – Lisa opens up about her weight loss
  • 14:22 – Lisa’s light
  • 15:45 – Dr. Stephanie and Lisa take a deep dive into the framework of goal setting
  • 19:01 – Opening up to your goals emotionally and wholeheartedly
  • 20:39 – Dr. Stephanie and Lisa break down common misconceptions about The Secret
  • 24:40 – The inspiration to become a speaker trainer
  • 25:45 – The importance of doing the work and investing in yourself
  • 29:36 – Lisa’s thoughts on fear and overcoming it
  • 31:35 – Birthing your vision
  • 33:21 – Giovanni speaks to an interesting pattern he has observed from Archangel Academy speakers
  • 34:44 – Why our life is like a car
  • 36:50 – How the acquisition of information can help overcome fear
  • 38:39 – The concept of cellular learning
  • 41:08 – Lisa opens up about the process of trusting herself
  • 45:04 – Failing forward
  • 48:29 – The process of forgiveness
  • 50:53 – Lisa shares a very personal and vulnerable story about forgiveness
  • 58:25 – Lisa gives a taste of what she’ll be bringing to Archangel this October
  • 1:02:27 – Where listeners can follow Dr. Stephanie and subscribe to her newsletter


“At the end of the day, I wanted to be love for me, and I wanted to have friends. And it wasn’t until I can love me enough – pour into Lisa enough, a firm Lisa enough – to say, ‘Hold on. I’m enough woman. I’m smart enough. I’m loving enough.’” (15:11)

“I feel like a vision helps you see what you wanna get. But the feeling, the feeling is the turbo boost. So, I don’t wanna just see it. I wanna feel it.” (17:23)

“You can’t take a sixty-four ounce dream and put it in a twenty-four ounce container called you. Sometimes your dreams are bigger than your capacity.” (26:15)

“I don’t do intellectual learning. I do DNA learning. I want it to be in my cells.” (38:39)

“Prayer is asking the universe for what you want. Meditation and stillness is being quiet long enough to hear the daggone answer.” (41:46)

“When you don’t give yourself permission to fail, you really haven’t given yourself permission to fly.” (47:08)

“When you don’t forgive you, you’ve only given yourself permission to win. And so, you are holding yourself hostage to an unrealistic expectation that sets yourself up to be disappointed with self repeatedly.” (49:53)


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  • Lisa Nichols
  • Dr. Stephanie Estima

I’m Dr. Stephanie

Part geek, part magic, and all the way passionate about being a well-lived woman.

I want to throw my grandkids in the air in my 70’s. I want to be squatting even more weight than I am now, and putting my OWN luggage in the overhead bin. Sound like weird goals? For me these are just some of the little things that represent a life well-lived.

My health is MY job – I’ll be damned if I rely on luck, ‘good genes’ or a cocktail of drugs that over promise and under deliver.

The Betty Body is my first book-baby, and a collection of what I’ve learned after thousands of clinical hours, hundreds of conversations with the world’s top experts, and most importantly…

This book is an outline of what took ME from “rock-bottom health” at 38, to being my own version of a Betty in my perimenopausal mid 40’s. A woman who is physically strong, full of energy, enjoys mental clarity, great sex and a joyful family life. Is it all roses? Of course not. But I have the stamina and tools to deal with the push and pull of life so that it doesn’t turn into chronic stress.

I want this for you too. Let’s go Bettys!